Sunday, January 31, 2010
The Things They're Talking about
The Things they carried is, for lack of a better designation, is a war story. Not the traditional kind where every brave loyalist is a hero and every cowardly foreigner is a bloodthirsty enemy just waiting to be vanquished by the Patriotic and Just warrior. “On occasion the war is like a Ping-Pong ball. You could put a fancy spin on it, you could make it dance.” (pg. 32)No, these soldiers are human. And because they are human and this story is portrayed as a true war story, any story told will have a lack of the warm fuzzy morals that we have come to expect from war stories. "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie." Chapter 6, pg. 68. Ultimately we are not supposed to gleam any sort of meaning from Tim O’Brien’s stories, but we are supposed to find the lack of meaning in them. The collections of stories seem more like an episodic, fractured, diary. There is no continuous plots or consistent timeline (like when they talk about who will die later). "It's safe to say that in a true war story nothing is ever absolutely true." Chapter 7, pg. 82. The truth is found in the emotions, not in the accuracy of the facts. There is no way for anyone who has not been in a war situation to understand the plain facts, when what truly happens is so far out of our normal reality. So, in order to complete our understanding, the reality needs to be augmented in a way that it is exempt from the influences of all those Heroic war stories and history books to broken down to the pure emotions.
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Deanna-
ReplyDeleteOkaayyy so I know we are only suppossed to comment on our group members blogs but my group hasn't posted theirs yet and I'd like credit for this assignment. I came across your blog and first off I'd like to say I love your ideas Deanna!! I think your statement "the truth is found in the emotions, not the accuracy of the facts" is a great statement. I could not have said it better. I also agree with your statement "..this story is portrayed as a true war story, any story told will have a lack of the warm fuzzy morals that we have come to expect from war stories." I think that you did a great job with this piece of commentary. I'm a little confused how we are suppossed to find "the lack of meaning" in Tim O'Brien's stories but I'm sure we'll discuss that in class sometime soon. All in all, great job on your blog! I really enjoyed reading and thinking about your ideas. I'm sorry if my comment doesn't make sense I'm sitting at Mickey Cox and it's really loud! Have a great night and weekend!!
Wowwers Dee. O'Brien does make a point to remove all sense of moral and meaning in his stories to recreate his own feelings of the war-there was no really tangible point to fighting, he didn't want to be there, and there was no driving idealism to spur his on, like many revolutionary or civil war stories. But in Vietnam, O'Brien felt emotions, and these feelings make meaning out of a meaningless entity-and you know what that meaning is??? NOTHING! :-) O'Brien is very much against war without a cause (which is basically every war since the Civil war in my opinion), and his emotions as a solider and dad create this meaning of nothingness and separateness from the world at home. Done...
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